I hate those no-flush urinals I know it's good that they save water, but they inevitably have a strong smell of piss by the middle of the day in a moderately-heavy-traficked environment.

agree, they are terrible We just installed some in a high-end condo project in a few units. They stink.

so what, they flush when they want?

I don't think they flush at all Look up falcon water free technology.